Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (o Realist o) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:09:03 GMT

Ohhhhhh....Squig and Gyps, you are making this veggie salivate with great happiness. Thank you.

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Gypsy) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:49:20 GMT

I love squiggle's recipe. I have 2 soups that I make that I call Chinese Menu Soup because it is a pick-one-from-column-A-two-from-column-B sort of recipe.

Quick Easy Creamy Vegetable Soup
(This is ridiculously easy and very, very delicious and a good way to eat vegetables when you don't feel like it.)
In a heavy soup pot put 2 cups of chicken broth (I use the kind that comes in a...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Gypsy) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:36:44 GMT

Gypsy, where did you have your aqua-therapy

Aquatic Therapy of the North Shore in Topsfield.

Their pool is HEAVEN!

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (KalesyGal) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:07:06 GMT

Alas, I think that many hours in the car would undo any goodness I'd get out of Reiki. I'll try to look a little closer. But thanks!

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (o Realist o) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:53:30 GMT

Thanks, squig...love cabbage and other ingredients. Sounds like a treat...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (elliegal) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:43:53 GMT

Gypsy, where did you have your aqua-therapy?

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feeds@yuku.com (star squiggle) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:36:19 GMT

Garbage Soup...
lots of garlic..i like the frozen cubes from T.J.'s... about 6 of those
lots of onions
lots of red pepper, cut up in large chunks
red pepper flakes to taste
salt and pepper
saute the above in olive oil until tender
add a can of Pastene kitchen ready tomatoes and 3 cans of hot water..the big can
add 3 or 4 cut up zucchini/summer squash
and half of a green cabbage shredded
dump in about 7 shakes of cinnamon
simmer for a...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (o Realist o) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:30:11 GMT

Recipe?? Again, please and thanks.

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (star squiggle) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:04:04 GMT

i've spoken of my "garbage soup" so many times on here that since i made a pot today...i thought i'd post a picture of a bowl of it....it's so good, nutritious and low in calories that i eat it practically everyday...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Zannylicious) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:22:16 GMT

Kalesey-

I go to a place in Farmington, Maine called Western Mountain Chiropractic. The massage therapists there are absolutely amazing, especially Anita Icenhauer. The drive from Gloucester is maybe 2 1/2 hours, if you drive with traffic...

I can give you the number if you are willing to make the drive..

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Gypsy) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:34:32 GMT

Except the part about "sugar". Does that mean people shouldn't eat fruit which has fructose, a natural sugar?

I actually meant "sugar" literally --- as in the grainy white stuff and everything that is made from it. Including high-fructose corn syrup, etc. As for fruit, I think the best thing is to stop eating it for awhile (this is my nutritionist had me do) and then gradually add in the fruits with the highest fiber ratios...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Y DEVELOP) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:21:35 GMT

Good for you Gypsy, I'm coming to terms with the same realization which I also knew for a long time. pgncov, you also add to that with the corn syrup issue. I believe that stuff should be made illegal like trans fats. As far as fruit goes it is an excellent way to get good sugars but those who are trying to fight bad genes may have to take a hiatus from fruits for awhile until the seas have calmed.

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (KalesyGal) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:05:51 GMT

Zanny, Can I ask who you see? I'm in a big need of Reiki but prefer to go to people who come recommended. Thanks!

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (pgncov) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:52:04 GMT

I agree with what you said, Gypsy, except the part about "sugar". Does that mean people shouldn't eat fruit which has fructose, a natural sugar? The real problem, I believe, is corn syrup. There is some evidence that our bodies metabolize this through different pathways other than the Krebs Cycle or oxidative phosphorylation which could be contributing to the rise in type II diabetes we now see. The evidence is not clear and the studies are more observational than experimental...

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feeds@yuku.com (Gypsy) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:17:37 GMT

I think nutrtional awareness is, as thinkin mentioned, far more important than most people think. I've struggled with food/weight issues all my life and it has only been in the last year, since working with a nutritionist, that I've really gotten control of my eating habits which has resulted in both weight loss and much improved health. The main thing my nutritionist stresses are:

1. You have to eat a balanced diet with a fair share of healthy fats --- 30% of your calories...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Evelyn) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:59:17 GMT

Roxie wrote:
I absolutely believe that traditional and alternative medicine can ... no, need ... to co-exist. treatments ....

That's the essential piece of the equation, I believe---co-exist. The biggest mistake many people make is seeing it as an "either or" situation.

I've had pretty extensive experience with outstanding traditional medicine blended in a package with alternative...

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (thinkin) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:58:04 GMT

WOW! Thanks, Pgncov--I had no idea! (I'll go look it up. :)

What it does underscore, though, it the need for us all to be aggressively defensive of our health. No one else is going to be.

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (pgncov) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:54:25 GMT

Wonderful post, Thinkin, I couldn't have said it better myself. There is a wonderful book that I would highly recommend to everyone in this chat room. It's called, The Last Well Person by a Harvard trained doctor named Norton Handler. He was chief of medicine at a big academic medical center in the South and his thesis echos what you said in your post. It's available from Amazon in paperback.

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (o Realist o) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:48:09 GMT

Son #2 is a physician in NC - he is one of 4 in a family medicine private practice. The practice no longer accepts "perks" from drug detail persons...no lunches, no tickets to sports and other events etc. Kudos to them!

Re: Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (thinkin) — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:07:53 GMT

I've had first-hand experience with some of those physicians who went on to form the core curriculum for the above (in my case, Washington, DC).
The physicians were all Western medicine trained and long-established. These were physicians who had expanded their *own* horizons over the years and felt that there was a need to be more inclusive--of the modalities and the patient themselves. They found that *our* medicine did not necessarily answer the needs of their patients!
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Alternative Medicine vs "Going to the Doctor"

feeds@yuku.com (Bobby Dinero) — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:05:58 GMT

Assuming this subject has been covered before. Hopefully this is a diff approach.

Has anyone had great or not so great results from visiting a any kind of alternative or holistic practitioner? Some years back, I was suffering severe and constant stress headaches. I went to 'the doctor' who 'referred' me to a 'specialist'. Without an X-Ray or thorough examination he ascertained that I had TMJ and required surgery. I walked out the door. 2 days...