Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Huck Finn) — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:36:18 GMT

Gabby my friend , I may be wrong but I believe that Civil Service jobs or titles are earned through certain testing procedures. I know that my former job as City Hall custodian was Civil Service. I first was on a sixty day probation period before I could even join the Union , then I was appointed Civil Service Custodian by Mayor Squillace after passing the Civil Service exam. What I also know nd do not understand is that the Gloucester Housing Authority seems to have its own standards. There...

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Thong Extractor) — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:17:53 GMT

Insider2004 wrote:
Thong, are you telling me that he didn't get caught after simply falling asleep, but that his paid nap was premeditated with a blanket and a pillow?

That's exactly what I'm saying. He was caught behind a building at the industrial park in Magnolia I believe, they were watching him.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (t) — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:04:12 GMT

The reason for civil service is to protect working people from losing their jobs whenever the whim strikes a politician

Politicians need to be able to fire the bosses however.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Dear GABBY) — Wed, 07 May 2008 19:43:03 GMT

And the band goes marching on!!!
This political mafia has been running our city for decades- It just that now it seems more blatent. Theres one favor after another getting paid back at Tax Payers expense.
At one time holding a Civil Service Job and being Unionized was job security -PROTECTED THE EMPLOYEES FROM POLITICAL ACTS THAT ARE HAPPENING TODAY - Today , the employer I was working for didnt even know if my former job was Civil Service. I cant even get answers if there...

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (OKCorral) — Wed, 07 May 2008 19:22:22 GMT
Could someone post who on the City Council was against Grows home-rule petition

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Y DEVELOP) — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:18:16 GMT
Civil service or political appt both systems have their failings. The tough part is holding someone responsible and actually managing them. Bell made some HUGE mistakes and giving the Chief job to Beaudette is one of the top bumblefucks.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Insider2004) — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:00:43 GMT
Thong, are you telling me that he didn't get caught after simply falling asleep, but that his paid nap was premeditated with a blanket and a pillow?

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Apocalypse) — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:41:19 GMT
You're right thong, nobody should be paid for sleeping, you draw pay you work. There is plenty to do around town from painting to snowplowing to sweeping the streets and sidewalks that some sleepy fireman could do. Dump Civil Service and put everyone to work. Hail to the taxpayer, give them what they pay for.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Thong Extractor) — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:55:16 GMT
The fact that "Sleepy" got caught sleeping on the fucking job with a blanket and pillow should have excluded him from ever being in a management position. That is the same as stealing. Of course it was a political move.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Apocalypse) — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:20:38 GMT
We all seem to agree on one point, Civil Service has gone the way of the dodo bird, why stop at the Chief, get everyone out of Civil Service and maybe the supervisors will have the authority to get people to work again. Unions and Civil Service has been the bane of cities and towns for years, it protects the lame and lazy. We should become a right to work state where the incompetent can be removed from the system.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Par Putt) — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:34:31 GMT
Having new blood, especially new blood who knows nobody in that infrastructure can only be a good thing.

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Damon) — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:12:04 GMT
How could we possibly do worse than we already have done?

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (fishman54) — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:30:49 GMT
you get rid of civil service just think of how much ass kissing and back stabbing that is going to happen. i hear that that is happening already at the police dept. with the sergent list. the chief list will be alot more political than it already is. just think maybe lamberis can be the new chief. if he can promise to do more than the next guy that is what you will get. you have to look past the two current chief's. if you dont like what they are doing you can't rush to change things...

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (t) — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:05:41 GMT
C'mon, for Chief you end up with maybe 4 candidates instead of any number, and then the guys like the current one with as many bad habits as any on the force, how do they promote discipline?

Jason is right on this one

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (MMickkeYY) — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:04:08 GMT
MCAS? ...you are correct I could not comprehend what you wrote...I'm used to reading english!

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (leftwingnut) — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:53:05 GMT
Reader's Digest condensed version, Preeze!

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Mothership) — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:51:47 GMT
Mick, thanks I will take your sound advice. Maybe it's reading comprehension that is lacking? Did you take the MCAS?

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (MMickkeYY) — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:42:12 GMT
Earth to Mothership...please take a writing comprehension course....your rant is a ramble!

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (Mothership) — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:35:49 GMT
IMO, one of the most corrupt (intentional and not) decisions made by "the Mayor" (that is all inclusive over the years) is Managerial Appointments? Any person can apply for a top managerial job and get it and that is where nepotism can play a roll and has. Job descriptions can be changed to "fit" a candidate whether it requires a college degree or experience or not. There is a good old boys network and that will not and has not changed. The unbiased council has a say in...

Re: Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (ckcaney) — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:32:31 GMT
I don't agree it should be as simple (or only) a test score, but there are other items that clearly pointed to Beaudette being a shitty candidate.

Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service

feeds@yuku.com (OKCorral) — Wed, 07 May 2008 08:39:15 GMT

Grow's got some big balls

Published: May 07, 2008

Grow pledges petition drive to pull chiefs out of Civil Service
By Richard Gaines
Staff writer

City Councilor Jason Grow...