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Dun Fudgin |
Here's the story on the Yankee Fleet! |
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Dun Fudgin |
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The above copied kinda strange...anyhow,I wonder about the parking and traffic it's gonna cause. It was one thing when he had just deep sea fishing from
E.Gloucester! Now whale watching too! It's gonna be fun this summer going thru Sayward St. to Bass Ave lights!
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Y DEVELOP |
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I hope the transition is smooth and the boats keep operating. The Cape Ann Marina was a great location for them for multiplr reasons. Does anybody know why
they couldn't renew their lease or who will be taking their place at the marina?
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captjoe06 |
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From what I understand they are going to be pretty well spread around town. They bring many tourists that spend dough around town. i think the downtown
merchants in particular will benefit greatly from them being closer to the downtown area.
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Dayglo2 |
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I noticed the newspaper said 2 boats where going to East Gloucester,how about the rest?
Tight Lines
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captjoe06 |
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I doubt the city would or should build a dock for charter boats. That is one of the few allowable and permitable uses within the industrial harbor so there is
no way that the City should compete with the private property owners by building a public dock with tax dollars when those boats will end up at docks that need
their business.
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Dayglo2 |
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Yes I see your point and I understand that we wouldn't want to compete will private waterfront property owners.The most imporant issue is to keep that
business in Gloucester and help the waterfront property owners through all the red tape to get property's up and running.
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The real question to me is, what is up with the cape ann marina , seems like they are losing a big rent check
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ckcaney |
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We're all wondering that, why no lease renewal? Anyone?
Also, recall the seawall collapsing at the cut, it was discussed that these specific large boats with their wake hurried the demise of that wall (was there ever any consensus)? I wouldn't think the Marina would want to lose that rent, plus it had ample parking, was on the "right" side of the bridge for those coming into Cape Ann from 128 and must have leant a certain amount of $ to keep the former "Gull" restaurant going just by proximity alone. |
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Damon |
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I have a hunch that the big problem will be parking. There is dock space here and there, but not with big parking lots. As I understand it the boats going to
East Gloucester Marine have worked out a parking arrangement with the restaurant across the street, but that does not seem very handy or permanent.
The other difficulty is not having a permanent location, easily found, with all the boats there. As Joe said, this is one of the uses specifically allowed in the designated port area. Everything possible should be done to find them space where they can be successful. Damon |
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seymour |
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I understand that the Dominick family has a large expansion planned for the Marina, including new motel, function hall, lounge, boat slips etc, and they
couldn't move forward with these plans with the yankee fleet there. The big commercial fleet didn't coexist with the pricier yachts that they're
looking to attract.
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brainfix |
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Who owns that derelict parcel between Americold and the dentist's office on E. Main? Plenty of parking there. All they need to do is cleanup all the
rotting pilings and dredge it a bit, throw down some dockage.
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Roxie |
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I'm not so sure about those grand plans .... :-o They couldn't come to terms on the lease .... and they were at it for years. People can be weird.
The Hills own the parking area across from the Causeway Restaurant and the property to the left of it behind the Essex Ave. houses back to the water ..... |
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Damon |
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Brain,
I am working on a dory in that parking lot behind Dr Martinetti's office (putting a new outer stem on it). It has always been my understanding that Americold owns the property. That lot is really not very big by the way. The pilings were for the Phyllis A pier as I remember. Damon |
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brainfix |
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If managed properly, 30 cars could park there. It does have potential.
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seymour |
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Roxie, the question is, did the Dominicks WANT to come to terms on a lease? I've been told that while the Hills wanted to stay, they were not exactly met
with open arms. The Dominicks have other plans for the Marina. The Hills property is basically useless to them now because they have no permitted frontage on
the canal. They'll probably try to sell it now, to anybody but the Dominicks.
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Damon |
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Yes, you might get 30 cars in there by the Americold plant in East Gloucester. It would help for a charter fishing operation but not for a whale watch scene
like they were running over at the Marina with that lot outside the Gull packed with cars. I guess I was hoping that they could locate all the boats in the
same neighborhood if not at the same pier so operations would be more easily coordinated and customers could find the boats.
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mya crakstinks |
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good for the whales
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Dayglo2 |
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I understand that a couple of the Deepsea fishing boats could operate out of the East Gloucester Marina and if they cleaned up the parking lot behind the
former Bob's Clam shack they would have enough parking.I haven't heard about the whale watch boat and I don't know where they could go and have
enough parking.I wonder if the buyout includes all the boats or just a couple.I haven't heard anyone say if all boats are gonna run or just a couple.
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Dun Fudgin |
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Let's see...behind Dr. Martinetti's office could work for maybe one deep sea boat with a new pier long enough to get into deep water. But parking is
iffy at best:
Behind the old bob's Clam Shack....better with good parking possibilities but traffic bottlenecks @ Bass Ave will be an issue: Best case.....The IC whatever in limbo property on Rogers St. Plenty of room and depth for dockage,plenty of parking and it would give downrtown shops and restuarants a boost. And if the Building Center relocated.........just think of the possibilities! |
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Dayglo2 |
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Great pictures Dunn,just goes to show how. limited space is available for businesses that need parking and dockage.
How about making more space and building a marina at Stage Fort Park,lots of parking ,lots of waterfront. I wonder if the city ever considered doing something and maybe take advantage of DPA funding to build in this area. I thought one of the points of being in DPA was that funding was available for projects like this. How about a picture of that area Dunn |
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