Dun Fudgin wrote:
Did anyone mention the Navy will be in town next week?
UH-OH!
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Gloucester teens had pact to get pregnant!
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 drinkycrow |
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(06/20/08 02:40 PM) |
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(06/20/08 02:45 PM) |
Mac........I have to agree with you regarding cheer leading..........it just isn't what it was when I was a kid!!! These girls have to take dance classes
(such as ballet, power dance, tap, and even step)and gymnastics in addition to having to go to many, many practices. They learn to work together as a unit and
keeps them too busy to be "messing with other stuff (boys, drugs, drinking)...............for those you of you think its the "fru-fru" sport of
yester-year........go watch them practice and talk to some of these girls!!!
In my very humble opinion this happens (and I don't for a minute believe that Gloucester, MA, is the ONLY community that this kind of thing happens in) it is because these girls have nothing more to model themselves after and nothing to look forward to!!! They are only perpetuating what they already live!!! Its ALL they know! I also strongly believe that for every child a woman has after the first that is illegitimate and still on AFDC, they should be penalized by not being given additional services, money, food stamps, WIC so on and so on. As long as all of these services are available these kids will continue to have babies!!! I also think that they should be forced to take parenting classes for a few YEARS..........a six week course just ain't gonna cut it in my opinion!! |
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(06/20/08 03:46 PM) |
AlteredAnnie wrote: Bravo, Annie.
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 brainfix |
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(06/20/08 03:50 PM) |
So it isn't an athletic outlet for teen girls with boundless energy? Should they get preggers instead?
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Par Putt |
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(06/20/08 03:53 PM) |
AlteredAnnie wrote: Bravo, Annie.
"Golf is a game that is played on a 5 inch course - the distance between your ears." Bobby Jones
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Gang of One |
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(06/20/08 03:53 PM) |
No. I agree with her.
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macpac |
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(06/20/08 03:54 PM) |
If that is what you believe GOO and Annie stop in and watch them practice, or go to a competition. They could care less about cheering at the games, they are
far from an accessory.
Cheerleading has nothing to do with this issue. It is a good thing for a child to be invovled in something, anything, softball, basketball, soccer, music, drama, ROTC, yes even cheerleading. If a child has an interest and something that they can feel they are good at, or they enjoy it, they are less likely to think their only worthwhile thing to do in life is to be a mom at age 15 or 16. |
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Gang of One |
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(06/20/08 03:58 PM) |
You don't understand the bigger picture of the point we (I presume it's WE) are making..yeah, I'm sure they work their virginal little heinies off
- but it still objectifies them and emphasizes that they are valued primarily as pretty accessories. - it's a lifelong thing.
An unpopular position on this island, I know.... |
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islandartist |
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(06/20/08 04:13 PM) |
Here we go!.........I just went into a Gloucester variety store to pay for gas and the young teenage girl working the counter with her phone in hand embeded to
her head was going on about Dateline being in the city and how her, her friends and mom were going to check it out like it's the second coming of Christ,
for Christ sakes! This is gonna get alot worse before it gets any better. Margaret! Fetch me my rope, there's gonna be a hangin'!
Can somebody please loan Y a used cheerleading outfit? She knows she wants to dance!
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06/20/08 04:15 PM.
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devilwoman |
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(06/20/08 05:01 PM) |
Should we say the same about the football players in their tight little spandex pants? The track team and basketball team in their tank tops and shorts? Give
me a break! Cheerleading is about more than the outfit.
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brainfix |
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(06/20/08 05:05 PM) |
Breasts for Gloucester!
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Dun Fudgin |
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(06/20/08 05:16 PM) |
My view: One word...structure! Family structure,community structure is what's lacking in our society.Back in my day growing up you had most dads
working...sometimes long hours fishing,in the factory... whatever to put food on the table while most moms were housewives. Kids looked up to their
parents,they were role models that earned respect. Kids created entertainment.Speaking for boys,we were fishing,playing ball...we were either on the court on
the diamond and any open field was our gridiron. Back home for supper that mom made and back out 'till the street lights came on! We watched TV together
(Having more than two TV's was rare) and went to bed at a decent hour. As we grew older,staying out later required to tell our parents where and who we
were with and when to come home. And make sure you have a dime if you needed to call home! Even at a young age we were taught the value of the dollar, no one
bought us a car when we learned how to drive...you had to ask mom or dad if you could borrow the car. And as long as you behaved, you were given the keys and
five bucks for gas. Spanking was allowed! and kids knew it! Now it's child abuse! And kids know that too! My dad never hit me...he didn't have to,we
had this old leather chair,his belt would come off and WHACK! It sounded like a bomb going off! That got my attention in no time! Well that's just one view
I have on this situation.Much more is going to be made of it and I hope the families involved can work this out as families and perhaps good will come of it.
This city has risen in time of need over and over, Blame should morph into solutions and we all would be better for it!
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(06/20/08 05:20 PM) |
I'm hearing from kids .... not involved in the story .... that the pact thing is way overblown. Some getting
pregnant intentionally ... yeah, but one story is that the pact thing was between two girls who pledged to raise their kids together after they found out they
were pregnant.
To the other 1100+ kids at GHS who are not pregnant or have not fathered a child .... keep your chins up! (and your pants on ....) Associated Press - June 20, 2008 3:23 PM ET GLOUCESTER, Mass. (AP) - The mayor of Gloucester (GLAHS'-tur), Massachusetts, says she's seen "no evidence" that teenage girls at a local high school made a pact to get pregnant. Mayor Carolyn Kirk tells The Associated Press that many factors could be involved in the recent surge in teen pregnancies in the community, but she doubts a dozen girls would conspire to get pregnant. Gloucester is a fishing town and has been going through an economic decline in recent years. That's led to cuts in teachers, services and some health classes at local schools. Word of the pregnancy pact comes from the principal of Gloucester High School. Joseph Sullivan tells Time magazine in a story published this week that the girls confessed to making the pact after the school began investigating. Seventeen girls there are pregnant, and Sullivan says nearly half were involved in the pact -- none more than 16 years old. |
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(06/20/08 05:24 PM) |
While I agree that all kids need an outlet - something besides hanging around the streets, but I don't think that cheerleading is the only way to go.
Yes, the girls work hard. No diagreement there, but there are other ways for girls to showcase themselves, such as lacrosse, tennis, soccer, etc., where they're accomplishing something besides being cheerleaders, surely a secondary position. For GoO, I'm dumbstruck!!!! For Brain, no comment. |
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devilwoman |
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(06/20/08 05:39 PM) |
No one said cheerleading was the only way to go. But it's just as physical and demanding as the other sports you mentioned. Have you been to a competition?
It's completely different from what you see on the side-lines and it's what cheerleaders work towards all season.
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(06/20/08 05:49 PM) |
I understand what you're saying, devilwoman. I agree that cheerleading is hard, demanding work and considered a "sport" by some.
Given a choice, though, I would rather see young women participating in something else, as I encouraged my daughters to do. |
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(06/20/08 06:12 PM) Administrator |
Roxie wrote:That sounds more like it, Roxie. After all, this is Gloucester where rumor flies and stories mushroom out of nothing (how many times have we been down that very road here on CAO even lately?  ) There's something
about a need for high drama around here that boggles me. So is it any wonder that a story like this most likely got blown WAY out of proportion and everyone
just blithely preferred to believe it was gospel? All that energy might be put toward trying to solve some problems and we just might get somewhere.
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Roxie |
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(06/20/08 06:26 PM) |
It's "the pact" that gave this story legs again ... I can't believe how it's mushroomed. I'm thinkin' I sure wouldn't want
to be a Gloucester girl moving into a dorm in a few weeks ....
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Gang of One |
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(06/20/08 06:31 PM) |
Dun Fudgin wrote: From your lips to g*d's ear....but never around here. Finger-wagging and blame is far more engaging entertainment. Why 'dumbstruck', Annie? You really think you know me by our little online tiffs? Please. Complexity becomes me...and my daughter (like my wife)
will be nobody's 'secondary'.
(...you should have seen me in Rolling Stone in 1981 in my ERA t-shirt....)
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AlteredAnnie |
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(06/20/08 07:19 PM) |
GoO, I truly have no desire to know you in any capacity. I know enough about you from out "online tiffs", as you choose to call them.
Please don't flatter youself with the use of the word complex. You're as transparent as a pane of glass. Rolling Stone? Never read that rag. On the other hand, good for you for wanting better for your daughter than someone who needs to do nothing more than to shut up and look pretty. |
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