If we got one I would want to buy it from a place that sells, installs and services them.
Anyone know of a place like this?
I want to get a jump start because those guys will probably be swamped come December.
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captjoe06 |
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I'm thinking about looking into one but don't know the first thing about them.
If we got one I would want to buy it from a place that sells, installs and services them. Anyone know of a place like this? I want to get a jump start because those guys will probably be swamped come December. |
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mazzie46 |
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neighbors on each side of us have them. They heat nicely without the mess of hauling in wood. However, they do not operate when the power is out because they
need electricity. You can buy a 3 hour battery pack for a lot of money. One neighbor has a thermostatically controlled one that comes on and off as needed. The
other neighbors is manual on and off. Both had them installed by the fellow on Pond Road. Neither has said anything negative about him or the installation.
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Thanks mazzie. I'm thinking about one to run with the heat to take the curse off. Not replace the entire heating system.
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I have friends who installed one a couple of years ago. They love it. I've stayed with them (they're in another state) and decided I was going to
install one sooner or later.
It adds a nice feel to a room, and cuts their heat significantly. The pellets are also very green, in that they are made from mill waste that used to be burned. I believe some are manufactured wtihout any non-green binders, too. Pellets are getting more expensive, but I think the cost per BTU is still lower than gas or oil, certainly WAY lower than electricity. I don't see why you couldn't just plug one into a UPS -- they can't draw much power. You'd have to determine how long the UPS would power the stove empirically... To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 |
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You still have to vent it and install it, right?
I'm not very handy that way. |
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I had one of the earliest models, and had pretty good luck with it. They have an automatic auger feed, so you only need to load them occasionally. The pellets
burn down to a small cake of fine ash. They don't require a flue....You can go right through a wall with the coaxial intake/exhaust pipe. The fire is
completely contained, so there is no smoke in the room. All you get is heat and a small flame dancing around in units with a viewing window. You'll want to
check out the economics with today's prices. During the 80's and 90's it sometimes made sense to burn dried feed corn as a low cost alternative to
pellets, but the price of corn has skyrocketed. I did worry about power outages, and was considering wiring up a small inverter and a car battery, but
inverters were expensive then. You can get one with enough power to drive the fans and feed motor for under $100. A fully charged battery will keep you going
for a long time. LWN is right about a UPS, but I suspect you'd be paying a lot for packaging.
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06/20/08 07:49 PM.
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Yes you do Joe.. We are considering converting one of our wood stoves to a pellet stove... You have to install a hopper, and something else. My brother in law
did it to his...
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I have been heating with wood for years and can't see the sense in changing. I get most of my wood free, so that makes a big difference. My father-in-law
has a pellet stove and its easy, but doesn't give the heat my wood stove does. Wood is tons of work, but I refuse to pay for more oil than I need to. There
are two great stove shops in Seabrook (pellet and wood)- both on route 1 (one on the right and one on the left).
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I want a company that will do a visit to the house and give solid advice.
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mazzie46 |
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The company that is at Topsfield Fair every year is in Seabrook on Rte 1 on the left going towards Portsmouth..Hearth something maybe? Someone here will know.
They have to be reputable to be in business as long as they have.
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Joe: I spoke to the guy on Pond Rd and he seemed pretty knowledgeable, also, look into the shop in Middleton, just before Richardsons. Last, check out
"this old house " website for recommendations.
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captjoe06 wrote: Yes, like anything that burns solid fuel there is a vent. But it is just a flue that you can stick through a wall, and there is a fan that actively vents
the smoke.
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 |
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Capt. Joe, the pellet stoves are less polluting than wood or coal, but there are two key things: the stove itself and its age, and the manner in which it is
installed.
Burningissues.org runs the counter-intelligence to the EPA's blanket approval of pellet stoves--if you decide to pursue this option, you might find their information a help in deciding what to look for. Burning is the least efficient means of heating. It also is the most polluting. Anything you can do to ensure the maximum safety can't be bad. Even if you independently vent the firebox, other house systems calling for pressure (bath fan, stove fan, etc.) *suck* the polluted air coming out the chimney back INTO the house to equalize pressure. So the indoor air quality becomes an issue. (The smoke from the stack envelopes the house outdoors because it is heavier than cold, clean air.) Brand *new* pellet stoves have a good rating, but the stoves themselves deteriorate fairly quickly, something the EPA fails to mention. Once that happens, they're as dirty as the competition. See if you can get a sense of the ratings long-term. Look into the information and judge for yourself--if you must seek the option and, if so, the best way to do it AND protect precious lungs. (EPA tests show that children in homes or neighborhoods exposed to wood burning show a decreased lung capacity for 24 hours--just one of the points that make investigating the *best* ways and means worthwhile - IMO.) The gas and oil industry burners have been regulated to assure the cleanest burn and the best safety for the occupant and the surrounds; burning solid fuel flies in the face of everything they have achieved through the regulations. Most people don't recognize that air inversions set the stage for disaster when the population is as intense as it is on the East Coast. Western states have no-burn alerts because of this potential--AND THAT INCLUDES PELLET STOVES. (The City of London (UK) banned solid fuels (wood, coal) when the inversion of 1952 ultimately resulted in the death of some 4,000, so it's serious.) Take a look at the data, Joe; the EPA suggested Burningissues.org to me since their own data and additional scientific data was posted on the topic. In fact, it's become a world-wide resource. Good luck. |
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Thanks for that.
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I had one that I got from a place in Danvers - they installed it and I bought pellets from them. The only issue I had (other than it not working during power
outages) was the mess. Whenever you opened the door to clean it (and I cleaned it daily), black soot floated around the room and settled on everything.
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That sounds like the stove is not burning efficiently. My friends' stove doesn't seem to do that. I've loaded it for them and helped empty ashes a
few times.
I wonder if the blower is not vigorous enough... can you share the make and model? To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 |
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Burningissues.org is a very well organized, informed and well put together site. But it is not without bias (almost verging on hysteria). They have a very
clear agenda. Not condemning...just stating an obvious fact.
Definitely worth perusing. |
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Burning wood or pellets is a dirty thing. I have a wood stove and use regulalry in the winter months. I love it but it does produce quite a bit of soot in the
air. We maintain the gaskets but there is only som much you can do. I use an ionic air purifier to help minimize the soot in the air. I can't imagine
living in NE w/o some sort of fire place.
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Wood stoves burn fairly dirty, especially the air-tight ones. Fortunately, we're not as prone to inversions here as many places are.
A well run pellet stove should burn fairly clean -- at least, that's my understanding. The feeder screw drops a few pellets at a time in the hopper, the blower keeps the pellets oxygenated, sot he burn should be more complete and cleaner. When the thermostat says "off" there should be few pellets left to create soot. I think it would be relatively simple to engineer a thermostat that would anticipate ahead of time when the set point would be reached; it would then prevent any more pellets from being fed onto the burner, and pretty much allow the remaining pellets to burn until the set point is reached... To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 |
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Question ~ We are buying one this weekend but can't decide if we should put a freestanding one in the basement or an insert in the fireplace. We have a
ranch and thought it might heat the house more evenly from below rather than the living room being too hot while the rest of the house remains cold. Any
advice is appreciated.
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Frosty |
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Well, heat does rise!
The one we had was in our living room and was our primary heat source. So, we had a very warm living room, a cool dining room, cooler kitchen, and positively frigid upstairs (winter temp around 45 degrees). |
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