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brainfix |
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I doubt many girls will give up that info unless Daddy is a committed member of the family, so to speak.
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Gang of One |
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globalwarmer07 wrote: Are you out of your mind? Are you even remotely aware what a stupid fucking statement that is?
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leftwingnut |
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Geez, GoO... give her a LITTLE bit of an out, mate...
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 |
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Retired734 |
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Time has up-dated the story and Principal Sullivan does not look very good in regards to the interview he gave and he is not alone. I don't know the man
but evidently he is held in high regard by many, unfortunately I think his days as principal of Gloucester High School are numbered.
Gloucester Pregnancy Plot Thickens![]()
Gloucester High School in Gloucester, Massachusetts.
Samantha Appleton / Noor for TIME
After a controversy erupted in late May over a proposal to distribute contraceptives at Gloucester High School, principal Dr. Joseph Sullivan said he was surprised no reporter had approached him for his take on the matter. If they had, Sullivan told TIME on June 11, he'd have explained straightaway that "a lack of birth control played no part" in a quadrupling of the number of teen pregnancies at the school this year compared with last. "That bump was because of seven or eight sophomore girls," Sullivan told TIME. "They made a pact to get pregnant and raise their babies together." Pregnancy Boom at Gloucester HighA Massachusetts fishing town tries to understand why so many of its teenagers made a pact to get pregnant. How one school is grappling with the Juno effect Since TIME first wrote last week of this "pact," as Sullivan called it, a media firestorm has hit this seaside town on Massachusetts' north shore. News outlets from as far away as Australia and Brazil have been quick to home in on the more salacious details surrounding these young mothers-to-be. But at a press conference today, Gloucester Mayor Carolyn Kirk emerged from a closed-door meeting with city, school and health officials to say that there had been no independent confirmation of any teen pregnancy pact. She also said that the principal, who was not present at the meeting, is now "foggy in his memory" of how he heard about the pact. Sullivan has not spoken publicly about the teen pregnancies since he told TIME earlier this month that several girls repeatedly requested pregnancy tests at the school clinic and that some had reacted to positive test results with high fives and plans for baby showers. Pathways for Children CEO Sue Todd, whose organization runs the school's on-site daycare center, told TIME on June 13 that its social worker had heard of the girls' plan to get pregnant as early as last fall. She noted that some of the girls involved had been identified as being at risk of becoming teen mothers as early as sixth grade, when they began to request pregnancy tests in middle school. "What we've seen is the girls fit a certain profile," Todd said. "They're socially isolated, and they don't have the support of their families." On June 11, the mayor and the schools superintendent Christopher Farmer said that some of the sophomores at Gloucester High appeared to be getting pregnant on purpose. Farmer said today he now believes that some of the girls who were already pregnant decided to band together to stay in school and raise their babies together. He added that if he had known of the pact as described by Sullivan, there would have been a school-wide intervention earlier. None of the rising juniors TIME identified as being members of the pact have come forward publicly, but nine Gloucester High students have talked to TIME about the girls who decided to get pregnant. Some described the pregnant teens as having little parental supervision. "They could stay out all night if they wanted," says classmate Allie McCarthy. Others noted a herd mentality. "I think the plan was a lot about peer pressure," says Nicole Jewell, a rising junior who describes herself as being friends with some of the girls involved. "But a lot of girls were excited to be a part of it." So did the girls make a formal pact to get pregnant together or not? Without comment from any of the pregnant students themselves, it may be impossible to determine exactly what they agreed to, and when. So far, the only school official to use the word "pact" is Sullivan, who reportedly now says he does not recall who told him about the pact in the first place. But what does seem clear based on TIME's reporting is that some of the girls in question did at least discuss the idea of getting pregnant at the same time, and that too little was done to educate the girls on the potential ramifications of that choice. |
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globalwarmer07 |
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Gang. You are still the parent of a pretty young kid (elementary, right). Just wait till she gets older. Because you are who YOU are and because YOU will have
actually parented your child, you will get very good information out of your high schooler. Disturbingly good at times.
In re-reading, you are right. It does sound stupid. But I assure you that it is all not rumors. For such a large school, the kids are pretty well known to each other. The kids are saying that this pact was VERY well known. From the horses mouths. It is not just heresay. Although, the kids are now backpeddling and saying that once they BECAME pregnant, they made a pact to raise them together. But that reversal happened MONTHS after the original story. Sure, take it for what its worth because they are teens. But you'll see soon enough. |
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brainfix |
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I'd retract that one, global, right now.
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globalwarmer07 |
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Retract what? I am complimenting Gang. From what I know of him here, he will be a good and open father to his kid an will have a kid that, in turn, shares
information. The kids want to talk about all this. They are not looking to tell you a lie. The HS kids in my life are saying, without a doubt, that the way
Sullivan stated it..... IT WAS the way it went down.
Did I miss something? Man, youse guys way over-think shit. Clearly, I am outmatched.
Last Edited By: globalwarmer07
06/23/08 07:55 PM.
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brainfix |
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That's what I mean, you're funny as hell!
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globalwarmer07 |
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Stop picking on me...I have really been starting to like you and Gang lately.
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brainfix |
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Not picking, glorifying.
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brainfix |
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Well, we are both likeable fellows.
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globalwarmer07 |
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I have no doubt.
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globalwarmer07 wrote: Dammit....I insult you, and now you're nice? Play fair, willya! (shit...I wish I knew who you were...)
I'm sure Sullivan IS a stand-up, decent guy (Marine or not...who cares; what - there are no asshole Marines?!) - but he fucked up with this one. I can say that....I'm perfect. |
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brainfix |
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Gang - solidarity.
One of these crazy old nights. |
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Huck Finn |
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Please be advised that Sue Todd is no relation or even step relation to myself or my family. Ms Todd did apply for Family membership, but due to the failure of
several tests she did not pass. One of these tests was to provide documentry proof that she could produce at least three children per year , until she turned
sixty years old. She was also informed in order to be a member she had to be Gloucester born, and Gloucester educated. Please take due notice of this
announcement and govern accordingly
Huck Finn
Poetry is written from the Heart by Visions of the Soul
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globalwarmer07 |
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Wait. Explain to me. You all know how thick I am... But explain to me how Sullivan f***** up on this one? He should have kept it under the rug? Should not have
called DSS? Should not have talked with Time? Should not have mentioned the "pact"? What exactly did he do wrong?
Because now the media is trashing our mayor, school committee, elected officials for knowing about this issue for the last 7 months and not addressing the situation. And here is more some not so good news. According to my niece, the names have been posted on Craig's List. I told her to go in and flag it for removal so hopefully it will be gone soon. |
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brainfix |
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Not surprising, global. The scope of the thing got out of hand way fast, Internet fast.
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gloucesterkid |
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Whether or not what he said was true or false, Dr. Sullivan deserves far more than to be thrown under the bus by the Mayor. He has done too much good and saved
too many kids to deserve that.
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brainfix |
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The kid speaks.
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o Realist o |
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gkid - absolutely agree with you and said so several times, pages earlier...Kaptain Kirk's dissing of Sullivan says a whole lot more about her than about
Sullivan.
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