What do you girls use???
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Unperennial Junior |
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99 has been asking me a lot of questions lately regarding club selection for various shots. I feel at a loss to make any recommendations. She made a far
better turn on the fifth tee than I've ever seen her do, but was not rewarded with good result. Yet, I would still encourage that type of swing. Her
swing with the driver is correct, it approaches the ball from the inside out, but she is a little bit off on her timing. She tends to either hit it fairly
straight, or push shots out to the right. Upon making a good straight hit down the center of the fairway, she seems to press that advantage and top or whiff
the ensuing shot. (OK, it took me 15 years to correct that fault, myself). When she does push those drives out to the right, she usually lands in some
taller rough. I see a noticeable decline in the distance she is able to achieve when there is appreciable grass that must be slugged through, and would like
to see that situation become far less the result of her tee shot. Most of the women I've ever golfed with that were anywhere approaching decent were
short but straight hitters. They made up for their lack of length with good short games and putting. I don't see that at all with 99, but there are some
factors that lead me to believe I need to instruct her in some different ways. I would like to see her club up with a driver that lands her in the fairway
about 95% of the time. Then I would like to see her with a long, medium, and short distance fairway club. I guess a utility wedge that would do double
duty from the fairway, rough, and sand, until she perfects the techniques for those different lies. Finally a good putter.
What do you girls use??? |
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oldhippie01930 |
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It's not fair to assume, UJ, that 99 is having trouble with her drives just because she is a girl. Have you considered the possibility that her swing issue
may be more related to her right wing tendencies?
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Willard J Clinton |
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I hear the Kennedy-Skakels recommend a six-iron for the ladies.......
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mazzie46 |
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Last night at the driving range, the fellow who gives lessons there gave me some advise on my drives and it made a 100 percent difference in my distance and
straightness. He told me to bend my knees more and drop my left shoulder slightly. He said women do not, as a rule, bend at the knees enough. The difference
was amazing.
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Unperennial Junior |
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She isn't really having trouble with her drives, you idiot. That's the part that baffles me. Her errors are the result of a good swing and poor timing.
When I was at her stage of development, I was slicing all over the course but making up the strokes with niblicks and putter. Try hitting a few balls, before
commenting, moron.
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Unperennial Junior |
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What clubs do you carry, Mazzie?
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oldhippie01930 |
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Unperennial Junior wrote: The house I grew up in was no more than 100 yards from the 7th tee of a golf course. The 7th hole was about 450 yards, starting with at long steep hill beginning right after the tee. On the other side of the hill was a chain link fence with a field of tall grass and a swamp. On the right was a hard right dog leg with woods with heavy brush and lots of poison ivy on both sides. You should have heard those angry golfers out there on beautiful Summer mornings cussing their brains out at some lousy drive they made. Listening to these guys, I grew up thinking that golf was a nasty and difficult game, and it wasn't until the last couple of years that I tried it enough to begin enjoying it. It really should be a relaxing game, UJ! Don't take it too seriously or it will be more work than pleasure. When you hook or slice or end up with your
ball in the pond for one reason or the other, take a deep breath, tee up another one and just get on with the game. If you give it half a chance old buddy,
you might just learn to enjoy it. Happy hacking!
Last Edited By: oldhippie01930
06/27/08 11:55 AM.
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brainfix |
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He said women do not, as a rule, bend at the knees enough. |
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mazzie46 |
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UJ, what in the heck did I do to deserve that? It read to me as if her drives were not going straight. apparently I have reading difficulties. I will stay out
of your posts. Carry on.
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Willard J Clinton |
Old Leftist Cracker = Steaming Leftist Turd on the Course!!! | ||
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Mazzie, UJ was responding to that idiotarian Old Leftist Crackers post, not yours.
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brainfix |
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Willard, due to prodding from brainfix, is trying to expand his horizons, so to speak. Your tentative steps are funny to watch, W.
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Willard J Clinton |
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>>>Willard, due to prodding from brainfix, is trying to expand his horizons, so to speak. Your tentative steps are funny to watch, W.<<<
brainfizzle @ 8:14 pm
Bongtime!!! |
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brainfix |
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Then why don't you have any cool new material, bro?
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brainfix |
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I love how immediately you become defensive/offensive when pressed for details.
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Agent99 |
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Mazzie, UJ was definitely responding to Old Hippie, who,frankly, usually has it coming.
Thanks and I think you're right about the shoulder thing. I try to control that by keeping my chin tucked down through the whole swing. If I hit it poorly 9 times out of 10 it's because I picked my chin up a bit. Drives aren't my problem though....I've gotten pretty consistent with them and I can hold my own with some ladies who have been playing for many years. My problem(s) is/are more with everything after the tee! As UJ describes, I have a devil of a time getting any power out of the rough. He loaned me a couple of his old Callaway 9 and 11 woods which have helped some.....took 3 strokes off last weeks score...but still I want to demo some of those low numbered hybrids that everybody seems to love. UJ....today while #2 was busy I let #1 drive from home to 114 then west to Rt1 S then we just happened to be in the neighborhood of Golf Warehouse. Unfortunately they didn't have the Womens Nike Sumo driver that I could borrow as a demo, but they let me hit with one of the new ones they had for sale. Per your advice I compared it with the Senior men's Sumo and another Calloway ladies. Of the 3 the Women's Nike had it all over the others in terms of how I performed. They do have a demo of that one, but someone has it out. I'm going to check back in the middle of next week and see if it's available to borrow. I'm not buying anything until I try it on the course. They also didn't have any low hybrids available that I was meant to try for getting out of the rough. I'll check back for those, too. There's no rush. |
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brainfix |
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Did you go see the remake, Agent99?
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mazzie46 |
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99, the same fellow at the range gave me this tip (and it seems to work) about hitting with my hybrid. He said when in the rough to slide your club to the
ball, more like the pendulum swing of a putt then a drive. This gets the club head down on the ground and hits the ball up (from underneath) out of the rough
rather than driving it. It is hard to explain, but try it. It helped me.
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Agent99 |
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I will try that Mazzie, thanks. It makes sense. I just haven't been able to swing hard enough to get any distance when there is grass between the club
and the ball.
Brain....haven't seen it but plan to. Might wait for the dvd to come out. I love Steve Carell and loved the old show. Promised the ute to see WallE this weekend. I could live without that one I think!
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magnoliatownie |
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99... I have good luck with my 4 or 7 depending on the distance. If the ball is deep in the rough, I tend to choked down on the club and keep my wrists far
behind the ball as possible,, with the club face back as well. If the my 2nd shot is on the fairway, I use my hybrid which is a Maxfli #3 . I got it at Dicks
for $48. I could not hit the thing properly until I started using like an iron. I had a beautiful shot with it the other day, you know when you feel the club
flex and the ball goes where you want it to?
A rarity for me. I did end
up with a terrible score because my short game went to shit. oh well.. Good luck out there.
"Beer is proof that God loves us"- Ben Franklin
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Agent99 |
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Thanks Maggie. Both you and Par Putt have great things to say about those hybrids. GW had a 5 that I could demo but that is the one hybrid I do have that came
with my set. I like it a lot, but need more distance. Hate the fairway drivers except for short tee shots. I have no iron lower than a six so what makes most
sense is to try out a low hybrid....a 2, 3 or 4. That would fill the gap. I had high hopes when I first tried the 9 and 11 woods that UJ loaned me, but had no
luck yesterday and worse today when I went out with the ute. Horrible today....I'm not a lover of humidity.
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Unperennial Junior |
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Hate to burst any latent bubbles, 99, but it shouldn't be too difficult to see that fairway shots incorporate another dimension of difficulty over and
above that of tee shots. The difference is because the allowed use of a wooden peg on tee shots, permits the club to swing well under the ball, still
contacting only air, and yet possibly result in an acceptable shot. When the ball is laying on the grass, however, none of that room exists for error, under
the ball. The same swing error that may result in an adequate tee shot, if applied to a shot off the fairway might well have the fairway club digging up an
inch and a half of sod. I did an informal measurement of my driver and my #3 hybrid. The driver has a face height of about 2 3/8" or 2.375. The hybrid has
a face depth of about 1 3/8" or 1.375. With both clubs you are really trying to hit a target with a vertical height of about .84 inches (the lower
quadrant of the golf ball whose circumference is between 6 and 9 o'clock. (Any ball hit above the equator, ie. 10, 11, or 12 o'clock can't possibly
get airborne) Let's suppose you tee the ball up on a wooden tee so that its equator is at the same height as the top of the driver, a generally accepted
practice. That would mean the top of the wooden tee is about 1.53" (2.375" - .84") above the surface of the ground. It's that additional
inch and a half of solid AIR under the ball that lets certain swing faults be so less devastating on tee shots, particularly with the huge heads on modern
drivers. Now contrast that with a ball sitting on the grass. In this case, you have virtually no room for error underneath the ball, because any contact with
the sod will take some speed off the club, and you don't really have much with the ball itself, because you have that .84 inches only. In theory, then, the
vertical component of the clubheads position at impact can vary by as much as 2 and 3/8 inches and still get the ball airborne of a wooden tee. With any club:
huge head driver, fairway wood, hybrid or iron, you can't be much more than just .84 or 7/8" out of vertical position when the ball is lying on grass.
One might say you have to be about 2 and 1/2 times more consistent with the fairway shots then the driver, to attain the same result. (ie 19/8" vs :
7/8").
Now the reason I'm saying all this, is not to discourage you from considering a long iron hybrid or two, but to point out the fact that any club selected for shots off the grass will have to rely on a more controlled swing than that required by the driver. It's that constant spine angle again. |
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