Was not the override vote in 2004?
and what happened when voted down - Mayor Bell took immediate action, believe it was the following Morning - He was going to teach us a lesson with the
following
FireDepartment Layoffs!
Sub Fire Stations were closed
layoffs happened throughout the city to stabelize the City?
Teachers were hard hit
surely this action saved thousands of dollars and should have contributed towards stabelizing , also
Didnt the City win victory over the overcharged sewer project, and kept half the monies that belonged to the residents of lanesville in 2004-2005
Why in 2004 did the City take over a certain project on Granite Street from WellSpring? Where did the monies come from
How much did the City if any contribute to Schooner, or Poles Hill
Was it not in 2004 -2005 when KirK head of the School Committee gave the City thousands of dollars that was granted to the Schools
Im sorry, I just dont trust the Hierarchies anymore- I feel that if the rates go up , the chiefs will find sudden monies for stabelization funds
overflowing and more raises, promotions and freelunches for these projects that the City cant wait to get their hands on. WE ARE THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION -
Its ridicioulous to say the least that an override would cure a Mismanaged City. I believe it was Manchester in 2003 , voted an override crying the schools
were suffering - the override passed and and lo and behold the school chief got a super raise into the thousands.....
I have said it before , and will say it again- We need accountability- ... No More Free Lunches, No more Raises , No More Mow Cutting, No more Gas , No more
taking City Vehicles to whereever you want- and for petes sake takes those riding toys from the cops and sell them immediately.... We needed them like a we
needed a hole in the head right now........
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water and sewer rates public hearing 7/8/08 7pm
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 Dear GABBY |
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(07/02/08 07:42 AM) |
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Matisse |
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(07/02/08 08:00 AM) |
Gloucester already pays its non-public safety employees far less than most other communities. That is why we have so many vacancies and underqualified people
on the payroll. Your public employees are definately not overpaid.
I can't begin to address all of the items listed in your frustrated rant, but can speak about Poles Hill. There was an override vote to purchase the property for $2.4m. The city was awarded a $500k grant from the state, which brought the price down to $1.9m. |
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(07/02/08 08:05 AM) |
Insider2004 wrote: I think you give the 80% far too much credit... And you ignore the more general points about tax cuts... To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918 |
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Y DEVELOP |
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(07/02/08 12:34 PM) |
Overrides go to the general fund after first year and are permanent. A debt exclusion is set for a specific time period and can ONLY be used for SPECIFIED purpose such as the CSO. We as citizens will bear the price of this one way or the next. From a financial stand point a debt exclusion is actually better for the majority and may save people some money. Understand there are many people w/o sewer in Gloucester. So the actual users of sewer are baring really more than their fair share. It is in the best interest of EVERYONE to push for a debt exclusion for the CSO. Contact your Ward rep and make it known. Or show up at the meeting. |
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donatella |
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(07/02/08 12:56 PM) |
So, what are the rates?
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Sigurdr |
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(07/02/08 01:42 PM) |
Is the option of a debt exclusion even on the table at this point? I have only seen it mentioned here on the board by Y, lefty, myself and a few others...
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Y DEVELOP |
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(07/02/08 04:49 PM) |
I think a few CC are bandying the idea about but not sure where it is actually at. The meeting posted is to set the rates which will definitely be higher as
well as retroactive. I would propose a huge turnout at the meeting an demand no rate increase with a full analysis of what a CSO debt exclusion would look
like. It is only fair and would show good faith on part of the city. We need relief and a reasonable resolution. This is the only way.
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