Why is it that we can dish out billions to the money mongers; billions to other countries; billions for a war; but we cant provide health insurance for our own
citizens?
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 ifiwanna |
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(11/06/09 10:12 PM) |
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(11/06/09 11:41 PM) |
If we stopped dishing it out to all those other things that in no way benefit us we could provide insurance for every single citizen,
and probably darned good insurance at that!
I'm mad as Hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!
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(11/07/09 05:53 AM) |
This is an incredibly important subject - we need a massive change in our thinking about priorities. What is most important, right now? This country is falling
apart in many ways. China will soon become the dominant superpower. Banks are getting away with murder and have their own rules. Same with insurance companies.
Our infrastructure is falling apart. We need equitable and sane health insurance for everyone. Our two party system is a shambles. Congress is a cesspool of
vested interests that can barely wipe its own ass. We are spending $600 BILLION/year for useless wars that benefit the defense industry and do little else to
benefit us. We have over 800 military installations worldwide. Our prison population is booming and is the largest in the world per capita...
Oh yeah - we're free and live in the greatest country in the world. Too bad we're in such a world of hurt. Health insurance should be guaranteed for everyone but the way things are going that will never happen. Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. - Dave Barry |
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(11/07/09 06:43 AM) Administrator |
There is one reason for this. While large corporations, religions, the military and foreign powers have lobbies, the majority opinion of Americans has none.
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o Realist o |
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(11/07/09 08:11 AM) |
Nailed it. oldhip - LOBBIES and special interest groups with millions, if not billions, allocated to caressing the political cesspool. Greed has become the
mantra.
I tried being normal but I didn't like it.
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11/07/09 09:09 AM.
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pirateofcapeann |
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(11/07/09 08:53 AM) |
While I love Gloucester, and all of its short-comings enough that I would defend this town with my very life, I feel that I can no longer say the same for the rest of this country. More and more, I look at the model of Canada and I see a country that really cares about its people, more then America anyway. I had, and still do have great hopes for President Barack Obama, that he may be able to re-instill some sense of pride in our nation, but it's just not happening. And to the republicans on this board: don't try to "dis" the man or read anything into my sentiment because I initially lost my belief and faith in this country under a republican administration, and there was obviously none of that ilk on the horizon that was going to do anything other then "Business as Usual". How do you stop a war? General William Tecumseh Sherman was right: "War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over". There is no bomb that can drop on a house and eliminate only the combatants in that house. Look, if our politicians are ready to unleash the most powerful military the world has known on our enemies, then let them at it - 100%! Pound the crap out of them then back out and let their meek pick up the pieces. "Oh, but we'll piss off the other countries like China and Russia". No, sorry, we'll SCARE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THEM! I think that our own people will then understand how important it is to be VERY selective of who we choose as our leaders and who we elect to control our strength. It will re-instill our pride and that pride will trickle down into every aspect of our nation. It will boost our economy and put this country back to work, and maybe, then we won't have to worry about a government mandated health care system because the general public will be able to afford their own insurance. But what do I know?
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(11/07/09 09:15 AM) |
o Realist o wrote: We can be the lobbists...please everyone who cares about any of this bombard your political state leaders; and federal leaders with emails etc. We are becoming a third world country. We have outsourced all the work to China, Mexico and put everyone in the USA out of work. Children go to bed hungry, and the health insurance system is killing us all. Buy American / read labels/ and make some noise. |
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Gang of One |
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(11/07/09 03:24 PM) |
pirateofcapeann wrote:Riiight. Just like Viet Nam. |
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(11/07/09 08:17 PM) |
GoO, you don't get it. What we've got right now IS Viet Nam all over again, on TWO FRONTS! And the ONLY way to come out of it is in disgrace, yet
again. Our military is, and was then too, the best fighting force in the world. They're just not being utilized properly. Our military men and women are
solders, not police officers, and our politicians are neither. They should NOT be directing a war from behind a desk in Washington. In Fact, THEY should not
be directing a war at all! They have determined that their abilities in diplomacy can not achieve the desired result and have made the decision to utilize the
our military. Now it's time to let our Generals handle the situation, perhaps in a very distasteful way, but that is war, that is the alternative. And
when they "come marching home" victorious, THAT will spur on a deeper respect and better economy...
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(11/07/09 08:35 PM) |
Limited engagement never works in war. Sorry, that's the way it was. and the way it is.
Shit,,got political? Slap me in the face. Ahh Futt More fun to be crazy,,then ever be sane.. |
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Gang of One |
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(11/08/09 07:25 AM) |
pirateofcapeann wrote:I don't get it?! gad... |
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hamtoro |
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(11/08/09 08:07 AM) |
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among
these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the
consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish
it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to
effect their safety and happiness.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation: For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states: For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world: For imposing taxes on us without our consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury: For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses: |
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(11/08/09 08:19 AM) |
The US hasn't "come marching home" since the end of WW II. We still kept large numbers of troops in Europe and Japan but it was peaceful. Our
troops didn't have to stay on base or go out armed. Can anyone see peaceful post war occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan looking like post WW II Europe and
Japan?
Do we go all out with a draft and bombing and level two countries because they........? So we can feel good? The money spent on war material and more troops does what? More mercenaries? Getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan will have to involve a full investigation of those that got us into it including punishment of ALL those involved. It will involve dealing with our military's leaders who want to play General MacArthur by civilian Constitutional authority. It will involve the demobilization of troops to a poor economy and NOT letting cheap politicians tell them that they lost and that they were spit on. Anyone want to be the President here?
Dad From Hell
"Go ahead - continue to paint willful ignorance as some kind of refreshing, down-home virtue" Jon Stewart 1/15/09 Daily Show |
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Dad From Hell |
Sure sounds like the Bush regime. | ||
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(11/08/09 08:22 AM) |
hamtoro wrote:That was from the Declaration of Independence........Great Britain doing it to the Colonies. See the US Constitution. The document written in a time of Shay's Rebellion.
Dad From Hell
"Go ahead - continue to paint willful ignorance as some kind of refreshing, down-home virtue" Jon Stewart 1/15/09 Daily Show |
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brainfix |
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(11/08/09 09:59 AM) |
PoCA's ridiculous when they "come marching home" victorious statement warrants a different discussion.
But one thing is quite obvious - as long as wars and defense budgets use up almost as much as the entire social services budget, there will never be health
insurance for all Americans. Why? Because we will have to sell even more Treasury notes to China to finance healthcare reform and will dig our own graves in
the process. We're already screwed economically and there are few jobs available, yet we're told there is a growing economic recovery. When will there
be light at the end of the tunnel? Not in our or our childrens' lifetimes.
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pirateofcapeann |
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(11/08/09 11:44 AM) |
brainfix wrote: Thank you (but I don't think it "ridiculous").
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(11/08/09 12:02 PM) |
pirateofcapeann wrote: If I read your post correctly, it sounds as if you believe that our wars in the M.E are justified and not wars of imperialist aggression. If that's the case,then I agree with Brain that there is a "ridiculous"quality to your post. |
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Gang of One |
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(11/08/09 03:11 PM) |
Utterly ridiculous, actually.
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turnstoney |
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(11/08/09 03:56 PM) |
Here's betting our next imperial intrusion will be on the Crimean Penninsula.
Since the U.S. seems to be making the same foolish military mistakes as France, England, and Russia in Southest Asia and Central Asia, why not make it a hat trick? Just saying...history keeps repeating...and repeating...and... |
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Dad From Hell |
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(11/08/09 04:11 PM) |
turnstoney wrote: 
Dad From Hell
"Go ahead - continue to paint willful ignorance as some kind of refreshing, down-home virtue" Jon Stewart 1/15/09 Daily Show |
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smokey |
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(11/09/09 07:30 AM) |
hamtoro wrote: What a fucking idiot.... |
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