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bjjuyr |
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The GDT has a poll going and the results are that 85% of respondents favor a school dress code. I think it is a good idea. Students could then focus less on
who is wearing fancy shoes and $ 150 jeans and more on who is getting good grades.
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there's more T&A exposed at GHS than there is at HOOTERS... i say yes to a dress code..
I'd rather laugh with
the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun... |
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MMickkeYY |
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Yes...uniforms will cure societies ills!
How sad that "adults" are always looking for the easy button! |
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WickedEarlyRiser |
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What someone was wearing was never a distraction when I was in highschool. How about a code of conduct?
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Matisse |
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I have turned into my parents. I support a dress code which might help control:
1) the "gangsta" style of wearing trousers that don't stay up at the waist and hang off of your ass 2) low-cut/no bra blouses 3) Skirts so short they don't cover half of the upper thigh 4) gym shorts as class-room apparal 5) Halter tops and other mid-rift baring styles 6) body piercings other than ears 7) visible tatoos Time for a shot of Geritol... |
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i don't agree with uniforms in public school...but, a little forced (if necessary) decency is in order....
I'd rather laugh with
the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun... |
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Foresta Gumpster |
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I also feel there should be a dress code. The way I see it, these students are preparing to enter the adult world where there are dress codes at most places of
business. It would be a good move to help the kids to understand that certain types of clothing are not appropriate for school or work. It couldn't hurt
IMO
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penelope |
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I agree with Foresta, and maybe if it was explained to the kids this was the reason (getting ready for adulthood/work dress codes) there might be less
resistance. Not a uniform, but a dress code.
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globalwarmer07 |
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All the kids walking on Washington Street after school look like they are going to a pajama party. Pajama bottoms and slinky tank tops. I would be all over
uniforms.
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Island Annie |
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I would be willing to bet that there is already a dress code at the HS. But what exactly can they do to enforce it, send the kid home?
"How deadly stupid we are that we can study history and live through what we live through, and complacently
allow the same causes to put us through the same thing again!"
-Eleanor Roosevelt, 1934 |
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Evelyn |
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It's always seemed to me that enforcing a uniform dress code simply (ahem) skirts the issue. Enforce a reasonable dress code, don't look for another
seemingly easier "fix". It's about behavior, not about clothes. Parents shouldn't pawn that responsibility off on the schools.
And BTW, having been down this road in another community not long ago (which ended up not adopting uniforms), there's plenty of good research out there which shows that school uniforms do none of the things claimed in terms of changes in behavior or improved grades. There's been no change where it's been studied, so beware of the selling point that it will lead to better behaviors. It just doesn't appear to hold water. On a high school level, it appears that it could actually make things worse. Dress is probably the numero uno method of relatively harmless acting out in the service of developing identity and independence and by far the least objectionable form of acting out among all those which teens could choose. Better to have them wear funky clothes and sport creative hair styles then look to other more destructive things to get attention or assert themselves.
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04/14/08 11:04 AM.
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Gypsy |
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Parents shouldn't pawn that responsibility off on the schools. And how do you get parents to assume that responsibility?
True art is moral: it seeks to edify life, not to debase it, to hold off, at least
for a little while, the twilight of the gods and of us.
- John Gardner The Old Mermaid's Tale: The Video | In Memory of Mark S. Williams | Sponsored by Parlez-Moi Blog |
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Evelyn |
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You can start by educating them (make it mandatory) in an ongoing way about self-esteem, setting examples, and most of all COMMUNICATION with their kids. When
you come right down to it, it's probably fair to say that 90% of kids' behavior---good or bad---is a mechanism for communicating something to the
adults in their lives.
As long as the schools are willing to accept responsibility vis a vis imposing a uniform code, for example, the more they enable the parents in abdicating theirs. I'm wondering if things like school uniform codes don't send a message to parents that they don't have to addresss the problem. It only begets more of same, no? |
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mya crakstinks |
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teenage girls in short skirts and low cut tops whats the big deal
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Gypsy |
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You can "educate" the parents until you are blue in the face but how does that make them "assume responsibility"?
True art is moral: it seeks to edify life, not to debase it, to hold off, at least
for a little while, the twilight of the gods and of us.
- John Gardner The Old Mermaid's Tale: The Video | In Memory of Mark S. Williams | Sponsored by Parlez-Moi Blog |
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Gang of One |
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All English schools have either uniforms or dress codes. I wonder if that's why they're all so much smarter....
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Gypsy |
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My personal opinion is that it has become politically incorrect to expect standards in many respects --- language, dress, behavior, etc. Consequently we are
fostering a disgusting lack of standards in almost every aspect of society. It's ubiquitous but God-forbid that any institution --- from restaurants, to
workplaces, to schools --- impose expectations of appropriate dress, language, behavior, not to mention ethics and morals. But, hey, we're too
"evolved" to have those standards, no?
True art is moral: it seeks to edify life, not to debase it, to hold off, at least
for a little while, the twilight of the gods and of us.
- John Gardner The Old Mermaid's Tale: The Video | In Memory of Mark S. Williams | Sponsored by Parlez-Moi Blog |
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Evelyn |
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Gypsy wrote:You might be surprised as I was at the number of parents who actually do take something away from ongoing parent support groups in the schools and with support, make a decent effort to make some changes with enough results to make them feel more competent as parents. I've only subbed for a colleague a few times, but two friends are school social workers (one in CT and one in NY) and I have to say, I've heard some encouraging things. There are parents who really want to learn and do the right thing for their kids, there are those who make some change only because having to come to a weekly meeting is and pain in the ass, and there are those who won't take a morsel of responsibility no matter what. No easy fixes by any means, but I do tend toward the notion that the more the schools are willing to enable, the less chance there is of the parents having such an easy time delegating it to them. I was wondering about the UK experience, Gang, but then the Brits are far more civilized in many ways anyway, IMO. After all, how recent is it that bobbies even carry guns? |
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Evelyn |
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Gypsy wrote: I'd buy there's some truth to that. But rather than "standards", I'd say "expectations" which to me is less judgmental.
But don't we (in the above cited examples) sacrifice expectations in the service of making profits? BTW, I'm no so convinced that the corporate world
isn't a tad overboard on control issues around dress and behavior---whether explicit or implicit.
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Evelyn |
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Back to the school uniform issue, I'd like to ask anyone who is in favor to share specifically what their expectations are about what it will accomplish
and how it will do that.
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macpac |
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I'm in favor. You can say I'm a lazy parent if you want, but my mornings would be 100 times easier if every day my girls got up and put on their
uniform instead wasting a half hour deciding what to wear and then changing their mind, while I keep reminding them they are going to be late, then running out
the door, just in time. Clothes shopping would also be much simpler.
I don't think it will change any social or behavior issues in the school, but it would be one less aggravation for me every day. |
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